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SpottedTApps
SpottedTApps
40. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 3 2010, 9:00 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2010, 9:00 AM EST
Christina, I was just saying this last night, because.... Rain and all, I put it on Bita yesterday morning. When I got home last night I found she had stopped it at 1 hr and 6 min. :( I started it again and proceeded to go about my chores and dinner. Went back out before bed to retrieve it with 2 more hours of data.

I was pleasantly surprised that with 3 hours of data she moved a mile. If that were a truth, that would be 8 miles a day. With the other horses' data though, I still remain by my thought of 6 miles a day is my guess of their travel amounts.

Another thought as a way to see how much they travel, watch your poop piles. We had cleaned the "dead end" section of the track free of manure on Sunday. As of this morning, there are easily 20-30 piles on that side of the track. That tells me they head over there a fair amount. Of course, I know they go there to get the alfalfa cubes and the 1 flake of hay spread along the track, but 20 piles in 2 days is a fair amount of hanging out on that side of the track.

Same, I always know when they spend more time hanging out up front, because they leave soooo much manure up there for me to have to scoop. Always when the weather is bad. Ug.

It's been on as long as 13 hours, while reading "Battery Low". From what I can see it appears that it records about once every 10 seconds or so. Depending on the signal. That's why you'll see a line straight across a pasture that is obviously not a true travel path.

Here is the Bita track from yesterday. Don't forget to go to the "player". http://connect.garmin.com/activity/23821727
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CyndiB
CyndiB
41. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 3 2010, 11:08 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2010, 11:08 AM EST
SpottedTApps, I wonder about putting the watch in one of those waterproof pouches campers use. Do you find this valuable?    
ChristinaSchumacher
ChristinaSchumacher
42. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 3 2010, 11:31 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2010, 11:31 AM EST
I think this looks like pretty good movement for 3 hours. Do you find this valuable?    
ChristinaSchumacher
ChristinaSchumacher
43. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 3 2010, 11:49 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 3 2010, 11:49 AM EST
All the discussion about GPS study using Brumby tools is moved to another thread. Info on the dvd ordering and such is also under the main Studying Track Movement page Do you find this valuable?    
SpottedTApps
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44. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 10:47 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 10:47 AM EST
OK, one more reading this week. I'm gone for a show this weekend, so won't get any more until next week.

This is South. She is the very first 6 year old I did that had the abcess. Her abcess is gone so I placed it back on her yesterday. She managed to keep it turned on for 10 hours before she shut it off. 2.2 miles in 10 hours. That works out to 5.28 miles in a 24 hour period. I could be happy with that. On top of it, her owner rides her at least 3 times a week, sometimes for day long trail rides.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/23952259

As a reminder, click the "player" tab in the upper right and watch it play. Too, play around with all of the other buttons, you can change the configurations.
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SpottedTApps
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45. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 11:01 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 11:01 AM EST
So, trying to get an idea of mileage here. :) I know these can't be considered as truly accurate, but to play around.

South 2-4-10: 5.28 miles/day
Bita 2-2-10: 7.44 miles/day
Roy 1-31-10: 3.84 miles/day
Lodi 1-30-10: 5.76 miles/day
Lodi 1-28-10: 2.88 miles/day
South 1-26-10: 3.84 miles/day

Those 6 days averaged out would be 4.84 miles/day.

Again, I'd be happy with that. The biggest thing for me is that it is helping to keep these horses fit. I don't feel guilty pulling any of them out and putting a decent ride on them, even if they haven't been ridden in a month or two. My young ones don't need to be lunged before being ridden. The benefits are obvious in the areas that I installed it for. :)
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ChristinaSchumacher
ChristinaSchumacher
46. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 2:44 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 2:44 PM EST
Do you have the full measurements or square footage of your PP? Do you know how many acre/acres it is in size?
If you don't care I'd like to forward the data on to Brian as an fyi
Let me know
GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!
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CyndiB
CyndiB
47. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 2:51 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 2:51 PM EST
Great Data SpottedTapps! I've got my hands on a GPS similar to yours and will try and track my group over the next week or so. The more data we can get the better. Good Luck at the show :) Do you find this valuable?    
ChristinaSchumacher
ChristinaSchumacher
48. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 2:54 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 2:54 PM EST
By the way, based on the brumby research that included the domesticated horses that we posted on the other thread you should be pretty excited. Based on your average, your horses are on average traveling more than horses in a 40 acre pasture. :) So regardless of size, you know that you are controlling what they eat, adding in interest, preserving part of your land and getting good movement out of your horses. :)
Pretty cool! I bet their not only spotted apps but very HAPPY APPS too! ;)
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ChristinaSchumacher
ChristinaSchumacher
49. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 2:56 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 2:56 PM EST
And if you could get 7 days of 10-12 hours of straight tracking like yesterday, then you would have some pretty substantial data Do you find this valuable?    
SpottedTApps
SpottedTApps
50. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 3:49 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 3:49 PM EST
Roughly, going by the measurements in my head, I come up with 23,800 square feet of track. This changes into .55 acres.

This does not include the 1/4 of track that is sectioned off for the boarder horse.
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ChristinaSchumacher
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51. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 4:31 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 4:31 PM EST
do you have the measurements for each side?
BTW, That is awesome if you only have .55 acres and you are getting that much movement that is amazing I think!
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SpottedTApps
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52. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 4:49 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 4:49 PM EST
That would be actual track measurements and acreage. It surrounds roughly 2 1/2 - 3 acres. The whole property is 4.6 acres, but the front is yard and house, then barnyard, then the pp, then the back wetlands. Do you find this valuable?    
ChristinaSchumacher
ChristinaSchumacher
53. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 5 2010, 5:32 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 5:32 PM EST
I realize that saying "pretty substantial" could deminish what you have already done. I didn't mean it that way at all. I mean that it would be more definitive as far as scientific research mandates. Optimal is several 24 hour periods but since yours won't go that long just not possible. Keep up the excellent work. When we get things farther along with the study, perhaps you can use the gps collar that we will have and run it for a week straight. We hope to have several farms test their horses movements and various PP configurations. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Gydjulind
Gydjulind
54. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 7 2010, 6:29 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2010, 6:29 AM EST
I would love to participate in testing my horses' movements in my PP in The Netherlands. Is there any way I could contribute? (don't have a GPS myself). I've already been thinking about tracking their movement for a while now and was planning on doing that coming spring (much better weather ;-)). Not with a GPS, but just me sitting for a whole day and writing down all movements of my horses by hand on a map of my PP. But ofcourse, GPS would be much, much better!
I have seven Icelandics and two separate PP's (2.8 with 430 mtr track, and 3.2 acres with 530 mtr track).

Another question: I would love to join in the group order of the Brumby DVD, but...: would anyone be so kind as to post it to Holland for me? (Ofcourse I'll pay the extra cost).
Is this discussion the right place to order the DVD? Hope someone can help me out (please let me know at gydjulind@planet.nl ). Thanks a lot :-)!
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Gydjulind
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55. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 7 2010, 6:31 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2010, 6:31 AM EST
"I have seven Icelandics and two separate PP's (2.8 with 430 mtr track, and 3.2 acres with 530 mtr track)."
Sorry, it's the other way around actually: my 2.8 acre PP has the 530 mtr track, and the 3.2 acre PP has the 430 mtr track ;-).
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tangledmanes
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56. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 7 2010, 11:55 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2010, 12:01 PM EST
"I would love to participate in testing my horses' movements in my PP in The Netherlands. Is there any way I could contribute? (don't have a GPS myself). I've already been thinking about tracking their movement for a while now and was planning on doing that coming spring (much better weather ;-)). Not with a GPS, but just me sitting for a whole day and writing down all movements of my horses by hand on a map of my PP. But ofcourse, GPS would be much, much better!
I have seven Icelandics and two separate PP's (2.8 with 530 mtr track, and 3.2 acres with 430 mtr track).
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Marja, I don't know whether the official university study will be able to use those movement observations, but I can say for certain that we'd love to see them on the wiki!

With careful observation in a limited area, you should be able to estimate the distance they travel fairly accurately. You know how long the track is, and how long the main branches are. If you are willing to chart their movements over the course of the day, perhaps with a different colored pencil line for each horse, then you can calculate the distance traveled at the end of the day.

I'm thinking that maybe a better heading for the chart might be "Length and Average Width of Turnout Track" rather than "Turnout Track Size and Width" because if I remember right, your track has branches -- no, wait, that's Great Gotlands -- but still... And what if we put up a separate chart for movement estimates based on observation? Even if not used in the study (and it's not my study, but it seems to me like that info might be worth at least an 'anecdotal reference') it would be fascinating and valuable information for wiki visitors seeking more information about Paddock Paradise.

JoAnn
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Gydjulind
Gydjulind
57. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 7 2010, 1:59 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2010, 1:59 PM EST
Thanks for replying JoAnn. With or without 'scientific value' I am going to do it anyway ;-). I was thinking of making a kind of board, large enough to stick 7 PP-layouts onto (one for each of my horses) so I can draw all their individual movements and add numbers to them, corresponding with points in time. Well... something like that ;-). Other ideas are very welcome!
I want to use the information for my website and ofcourse I'll spread the news here too in due time!
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SpottedTApps
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58. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 9 2010, 11:03 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2010, 11:03 AM EST
I am home. yay. I brought Ruby (pictured in my avatar) my 5 yr old reiner home as well and she is back on track. This morning I put the gps on her, so will see how much data the little turd gives me. :) Do you find this valuable?    
SpottedTApps
SpottedTApps
59. RE: Studying Track Movement
Feb 10 2010, 10:57 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 10 2010, 10:57 AM EST
One more tracking. This is Ruby, my 5 yr old. Pretty well as expected at this point, 2.6 miles in almost 11 hours. It was day time. They'd have run out of hay roughly between 12-4. Alfalfa cubes and pellets would be spread around the track. The back of the track is HORRIFICALLY muddy. Up to their knees at several points, but they still traverse it to get to the goodies. :)

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/24355486

That averages to 5.76 miles a day.
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