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tangledmanes |
60. RE: Pea Gravel
Dec 3 2010, 10:57 AM EST
Yes: either a single anchor point in the center of the floor, or two anchor points across from each other. I use double-ended snaps clipped to a small loop knotted through the box. You can alternatively use eyebolt hardware for the anchor points, but the small rope is cheaper and works just as well. Even hay string can work for the anchor point, but the strands will separate and become aggravating to clip on to after a little while.
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jespa |
61. RE: Pea Gravel
Mar 8 2011, 10:11 PM EST
"Have you considered hoof boots? I have a few friends with foundered horses. Instead of shoes (which reduces blood flow and therefore feeling and growth) you can get a pair of boots for her. A good pair of boots can last up to 500+ miles for an endurance rider. I'm sure they'd last even longer for your mare, as she will not put on as many hard miles. Talking to one of my friends, she said they are a costly initial purchase, but they work out to less; as the boots will work on her founderd horse (doesn't do endurance with that one) for years. As opposed to reshoeing every 6 weeks. (it costs$125+ to shoe all around here). She has been using Easyboots on his two fronts for over two years now. The boots still look fine to me!Shoes will only mask the problem. Try the hoof boots. Check out Pete Ramey's site for more info and encouragement. Good Luck! Do you find this valuable? |
slightsey |
62. RE: Pea Gravel
Mar 20 2011, 11:37 AM EDT
Hi SpottedTApps, we will soon be moving into our new property and I have to start seriously thinking of my sacrifice area; love your photos, but have a question regarding manure; how hard is it to pick up without taking peagravel with you; also how large is the peagravel; thanks. Sonia
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Sparrow01 |
63. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 2 2011, 12:29 PM EDT
I had hundreds of dollars of pea gravel added to my track a year and a half ago. It was GREAT while it lasted. It is all gone now - mashed up with snow, mud, poop, etc. I did not have the equipment to dig down to lay a foundation, etc. I am going to try just putting it around the watering area instead. See if I can get that to work a little better. Pea gravel here is expensive, so I hated to see it all disappear - oh well. We have also added crusher run (small stones with dust)and bank run (road side millings) to our track. The bank run is cheap and seems to be holding up the best. It gets hard like a trail might. So it does not give the message benefit, but is good for overall hoof conditioning.
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snow-patch |
64. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 2 2011, 1:47 PM EDT
"Hi SpottedTApps, we will soon be moving into our new property and I have to start seriously thinking of my sacrifice area; love your photos, but have a question regarding manure; how hard is it to pick up without taking peagravel with you; also how large is the peagravel; thanks. Sonia"I am not SpottedTApps, but I thought I would offer my experience. Our peagravel was considered "coarse aggregate" by the quarry (maybe 1/4 to 1/2 inch?). I have found the gravel in the barn to act like cat litter; the pea gravel just falls right through a shavings fork. You may take a few pieces of gravel with you, but not much. If they have stomped the manure into the gravel, the manure is either somewhat coated with gravel if it is still moist, or pulverized into pieces that may go through the shavings fork tines. Overall I liked gravel inside better than shavings. My only concern was that after about a year the manure dust and hay dust (hay fed in hanging smhn and not a box) began to dilute the gravel in some areas. On the other hand, gravel on an outside pathway can get packed into the dirt. That can cause more gravel to stick to and be taken up with stomped-on manure. If the gravel is loose, it is easy to pick out, like the inside. Our path is maybe 20 ft, so I can't speak for gravel on a long track. Anyone have any other comments or experiences to add? Do you find this valuable? |
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slightsey |
65. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 2 2011, 4:53 PM EDT
Thanks to both Sparrow 01 and Snow Patch for your valuable feed back.Take care. Sonia Do you find this valuable? |
missyclare |
66. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 3 2011, 11:26 AM EDT
I couldn't afford pea gravel either, let alone the thought of watching it sink into the ground. Heck, when you have major mud, you can throw your hat down and it will sink! I started by putting crushed limestone in my round pen outside and lived with it for a few years. The footing is fantastic and although it has reduced, its still going strong and did bank up along the outside edge, but didn't leave the ring. When the ground is bad, they go in the ring to be high and dry, as even my sacrifice area has been "sacrificed". They spent a month in the ring because of bad weather and when they came out they had rock crushing feet free of thrush. I'm cleaning up equal numbers of dirt donuts as I am poo in there. I have a road back the land that is fist-sized quarry stone thats sharp. My goal was to be able to walk that road without anyone batting an eyelash and after a month in the round pen...they did just that! Last year, I dug out 8" of dirt out of my barn and put 4" of larger gravel in for drainage, a layer of felt off a paper machine, (because I didn't want it mixing), then 4" of crushed gravel on top of that. Its a harder surface but still works. Most of its settled, but still 2" of play. My cleaning tools have changed. I made it a goal to not let it get plugged up with hay, shavings or poo. I use a many-tined fork to lift up off the surface, and a broom used lightly to get hair, shavings, hay and cleans it up to look like new again. Then I get the grass rake out for that ultimate "zen" feeling, lol! I can clean the barn in 1/3rd of the time. My shavings expense is almost down to nil. The harder surface has helped to retain the floor level and adjustments are minimal. I think also that the harder surface has upped the splash factor and they don't pee on it as much. I was scared the whole time I was digging the dirt out of my barn, but it has wintered well...am pleased. Do you find this valuable? |
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missyclare |
67. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 3 2011, 11:31 AM EDT
I have some pics, if you are interested. I just don't wish to post them incorrectly (not familiar with this site) and certainly don't want to mess up anyone else's hard work at doing such a nice job of setting this site up, so I'll need guidance.
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tangledmanes |
68. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 3 2011, 12:23 PM EDT
"I have some pics, if you are interested. I just don't wish to post them incorrectly (not familiar with this site) and certainly don't want to mess up anyone else's hard work at doing such a nice job of setting this site up, so I'll need guidance."I set up up a photo album to make your pictures easier to work with on the wiki. http://paddockparadise.wetpaint.com/photos/album/190613/missyclare Upload them into there, give them a name and keywords when prompted, and you're good to copy them from there to the pea gravel page or anywhere you think they belong on the wiki! Here's a link to another explanation: http://paddockparadise.wetpaint.com/page/How+to+Add+Photos Today I'm GETTING OUTDSIDE for a change! Seriously, ha ha. I'll check back tonight to see if you need more help, but we love pictures and want to see them! ~JoAnn~ Do you find this valuable? |
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tangledmanes |
69. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 3 2011, 12:26 PM EDT
"I have some pics, if you are interested. I just don't wish to post them incorrectly (not familiar with this site) and certainly don't want to mess up anyone else's hard work at doing such a nice job of setting this site up, so I'll need guidance."Oh, and please, please , please don't even worry about making mistakes -- when you're done with what you're doing and you save your edits, just let me know if something didn't turn out right or if something disappeared that shouldn't have. I can restore and revert if needed. Do you find this valuable? |
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slightsey |
70. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 3 2011, 6:45 PM EDT
Hi Missyclare,Thanks for sharing; I am leaning towards doing something like you and yes I would love to see photos; does the limestone gravel come in different sizes or is it standard? Thanks Sonia. Do you find this valuable? |
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missyclare |
71. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 4 2011, 1:37 AM EDT
Thank you for creating the album for me.Took me awhile to figure it out but I've got 7 downloaded to the "all photos" section of the gallery. I'm not sure how to get them in my album. There were 3 sizes of pea gravel. The largest one was called river rock, then a medium and a fine. I gravitated to the medium one until I found out the price. As for the crushed limestone, there were two sizes. One was sand and small pebbles (sharp) and the other one was fine, which was what I got. There are no stones...all crushed. The ftoor is like velvet in consistency. with tiny stones way smaller than a pea. Do you find this valuable? |
SpottedTApps |
72. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 4 2011, 9:47 AM EDT
Since your question has already been answered well, I'll just add my own experience almost 2 years later. Scooping manure was never a problem. I lost all of my pea gravel in the track due to mixing in the dirt and sand below. I still have some in my barnyard because the horses don't live on it, but what an expensive loss. Were I to do it again, I'd definately prep and use some mats or road carpet before putting down the gravel. Do you find this valuable? |
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tangledmanes |
73. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 4 2011, 10:51 AM EDT
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" Thank you for creating the album for me.Took me awhile to figure it out but I've got 7 downloaded to the "all photos" section of the gallery. I'm not sure how to get them in my album. "Easy! :-) Thank you for sharing the photos. :-) Now they're in your album to be easy to find later on after more pictures are added to the general photo area. I also took the liberty of setting up a page to display them all at once, along with what you wrote here to describe it. Of course, feel free to edit anything about it, including the page name. http://paddockparadise.wetpaint.com/page/Missyclare%27s+Rock I put your close-up on the newly re-named "Pea Gravel and Other Rock Types" page: http://paddockparadise.wetpaint.com/page/Pea+Gravel+and+Other+Rock+Types But haven't labeled the information on it yet -- maybe you could give it a try... ;-) ~JoAnn~ Do you find this valuable? |
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slightsey |
74. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 4 2011, 11:09 AM EDT
HI Missyclare, do you do any prep work in your rign before putting the crushed limesotne? How many inches did you put on the ground? Sonia
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slightsey |
75. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 4 2011, 11:13 AM EDT
Thanks SpottedTApps! I don't think I am going to put pea gravel right now; in reality I wish I had the budget for decomposed granite but if you guys think peagravel is expensive; here in Housotn, TX, crushed granite is $60-65 a foot! but man it is fantastic. I have a friend who has had hers for 3 years now and it looks fantastic and I have seen it after it has rained hard; drained great and NO mud, and picking up poop is a breeze. Anyway wishful thinking!
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missyclare |
76. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 4 2011, 9:21 PM EDT
The ring is a 60' round pen that sits at the highest point of my back yard. I filled it with fill from the back field leftover from digging the pond, so nothing special. (clay/loam) I just made sure that it was built up to be the highest point for sure. Then started adding the limestone. The middle of the ring is the highest, and levelled like an inverted cone. A tandem load(double axel size truck) will last me 4-5 years and produces 4-6" in depth on the surface.
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Takelababy |
77. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 9 2011, 1:44 PM EDT
Sparrow, when the ground dries you will see a return of much of your pea gravel. Our back road is considered a gravel road and come spring there is little sign of the grave. As the road dries the gravel comes up again. I too have an area where the sand disappears. It too reappears as the ground dries. I'll also pull an old box spring over the area to scuffle the surface which hastens the drying.
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missyclare |
78. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 10 2011, 9:34 PM EDT
Thank you Tangledmanes for all your help.I certainly couldn't do this without you! The gravel example pic is for 3/4" drainage stone. The note under the pic is about the pea grave experience I had at the yard. This pic, (drainage stone) is under the pea gravel. I put a layer of felt between them to keep them from mixing. I can't seem to fix this and will leave it in your capable hands. Thank you!
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Takelababy |
79. RE: Pea Gravel
Apr 10 2011, 10:58 PM EDT
Pea gravel is one size only, the size of peas-thus the name. The stones are smooth versus sharp edged stones that have gone thro a crusher. Anything that has to go either thro a crusher or screens will be considerable more expensive than pit run. I just had pit run put down and removed amything larger than a golf ball. These I used for preventing pails from toppling over when I put tall plants in the pails.
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