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Pea Gravel
May 7 2009, 5:00 PM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2009, 5:00 PM EDT
What is the best type of pea gravel to use? Does it matter if it is not exactly round and smooth? That seems to be quite expensive here .
Thanks, Lindsay
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lindszoo
lindszoo
1. RE: Pea Gravel
May 7 2009, 5:05 PM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2009, 5:05 PM EDT
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Walowa
Walowa
2. RE: Pea Gravel
May 7 2009, 7:31 PM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2009, 7:31 PM EDT
We have a problem getting pea gravel here, so I put down "choke" which looks like coarse sand. It is the byproduct that chokes the equipment when they crush rock for gravel. Still not cheap. My farrier says that it has sharp pieces that could cause problems, but it has been down all winter with no trouble. The main thing is getting something that doesn't pack into a solid surface, but moves around and massages the hoof as they walk through it. The stallions run has packed down some, but can be raked up. His feet look beautiful. The horses prefer to stand on the areas with choke rather than in the mud, which we have plenty of this year. It has been an unusually wet spring here on the dry side of Oregon. Terrie 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
SpottedTApps
SpottedTApps
3. RE: Pea Gravel
May 8 2009, 10:07 AM EDT | Post edited: May 8 2009, 10:07 AM EDT
Mine is being delivered and spread as we speak. I can't wait to see it tonight! Yay!
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Wildridge
Wildridge
4. RE: Pea Gravel
May 9 2009, 7:28 AM EDT | Post edited: May 9 2009, 7:28 AM EDT
SpottedT, are you getting pea gravel? If so, am wondering how much you had to pay a ton in FL. Thanks, Ann Do you find this valuable?    
tangledmanes
tangledmanes
5. RE: Pea Gravel
May 9 2009, 10:53 PM EDT | Post edited: May 9 2009, 10:53 PM EDT
"Sorry should have signed in first."
Sorry for going off the subject here, but this reminded me... I am wondering if we "regulars" would find it more convenient to change the site settings to require us to be signed in before posting? I know that I've accidentally posted as "anonymous" before, and it drives me crazy! I wish it wouldn't have let me do that >G< but I had set it for open posting to the discussions to make the site usable by anyone. But now I'm thinking that it's not asking too much for someone to sign up on the site (for free, of course) before posting, and it's pretty easy to pick a user name. Reading the site would still be open to unregistered users. I know that as a regular user, I would prefer to be required to sign in before posting because it would save me some aggravation.
What do you think? Does anyone believe that requiring sign-in before posting here is unreasonable?
~JoAnn Johnson
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lindszoo
lindszoo
6. RE: Pea Gravel
May 9 2009, 11:42 PM EDT | Post edited: May 9 2009, 11:42 PM EDT
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tangledmanes
tangledmanes
7. RE: Pea Gravel
May 9 2009, 11:43 PM EDT | Post edited: May 9 2009, 11:43 PM EDT
"What is the best type of pea gravel to use? Does it matter if it is not exactly round and smooth? That seems to be quite expensive here .
Thanks, Lindsay"
I think pea gravel by definition is round and smooth, but it's not the only type of gravel with hoof benefits. The beauty of pea gravel, as Walowa said, is that it doesn't pack down and will gently massage away exfoliating sole and bar material -- sounds like a spa, right? Well, it is -- and it doesn't need to be all around your track to do the job. Even a small patch of strategically placed pea gravel may do the trick.
Regular gravel also helps to naturally wear down the hoof wall, and encourages hoof mechanism.
In what area do you keep your horses, Lindsay?
~JoAnn
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lindszoo
lindszoo
8. RE: Pea Gravel
May 10 2009, 10:57 AM EDT | Post edited: May 10 2009, 10:57 AM EDT
I have 1 horse in particular that I want to get the pea gravel for. He had foundered twice before I got him and have got a good barefoot trimmer. I have a dry paddock with stalls that they have access to but are not kept in. Then access to pasture as well. I have just built a new 3 stall barn and am debating whether to put the pea gravel in the stalls and under the overhang outside the stalls. Do you find this valuable?    
Walowa
Walowa
9. RE: Pea Gravel
May 10 2009, 11:25 AM EDT | Post edited: May 10 2009, 11:25 AM EDT
JoAnn, If you can set it up that you need to be signed in to post, I think it would be a nice idea. It is frustrating to have those anonymous posts. I think we all like having an identity to respond to.

Lindszoo, That sounds like a good plan. I would definitely put the pea gravel under the overhang at the very least. Anywhere that the horses like to hang out is good. I also like to use it for better footing at gates, where the wear and tear create mud. How much time are you allowing your foundered horse out on the grass? Do you use a grazing muzzle? Are you considering a PP track? Terrie
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lindszoo
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10. RE: Pea Gravel
May 10 2009, 12:55 PM EDT | Post edited: May 10 2009, 12:55 PM EDT
I like the idea of using some pea gravel where they like to hang out, but do you need to contain it to stop it from spreading? I had thought that I would have to build a "wall" around the area first. . Also do I need to put down any type of cloth as the base? So maybe if I do a smaller area I can use the proper pea gravel. I am trying to finish this area and the barn before staring on the Paddock....... Drifter has only been let out on a small pasture for a few hours WITH his grazing muzzle on. We also have him on a detox program. I believe a lot of toxins build up in the body and then settle in the feet. Do you find this valuable?    
Walowa
Walowa
11. RE: Pea Gravel
May 10 2009, 5:26 PM EDT | Post edited: May 10 2009, 5:26 PM EDT
There has been several suggestions of putting a geotextile fabric down first. Some people dig out the area first, lay down the fabric and then the pea gravel. If you dig down a ways, that will create walls to help hold the pea gravel. I just spread my gravel right from the truck on the ground and it is disappearing into the mud around the edges. I had it spread pretty thick, and there is still plenty of it left in the middle. All in all, I am pretty pleased with how well it survived a hard winter. I think I need to lay down a layer of coarser rock and then the pea type gravel on top of that. Don't know if the geotextile fabric would be a cheaper way to go or not. Sounds like you have a good program going for Drifter. Terrie Do you find this valuable?    
SpottedTApps
SpottedTApps
12. RE: Pea Gravel
May 11 2009, 10:29 AM EDT | Post edited: May 11 2009, 10:29 AM EDT
I am in FL where it is extremely sandy. The pea gravel cost me $49/ ton. I got 20 tons. That hurts. I didn't want to lose the pea gravel to the sand, so I first put down cement wash out as a base. It packs harder. Then pea gravel.
Cement wash out driveway:
[IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/SpottedTApps/Property/5-10-09002.jpg[/IMG]

With pea gravel on top:
[IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/SpottedTApps/Property/5-10-09003.jpg[/IMG]

I had it put inside and outside the main gate. It is under the overhang of their run in, and a favorite place for them to stand, besides the fact that they have to walk through it every time they come and go from the track. Also hope it keeps the mud at bay in highly trafficed areas.
[IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/SpottedTApps/Property/5-10-09003.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/SpottedTApps/Property/5-10-09005.jpg[/IMG]

They love it and fight over who gets to stand in it.
[IMG]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/SpottedTApps/Property/5-10-09006.jpg[/IMG]
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SpottedTApps
SpottedTApps
13. RE: Pea Gravel
May 11 2009, 10:30 AM EDT | Post edited: May 11 2009, 10:30 AM EDT
bummer. The links didn't work.

I'll post them to the album. And maybe we need to start a "Pea Gravel" page for pictures?
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lindszoo
lindszoo
14. RE: Pea Gravel
May 11 2009, 11:07 AM EDT | Post edited: May 11 2009, 11:07 AM EDT
Thanks everyone for the info. I think a pea gravel page with pictures would be great. I am going to call around and get some more prices. Do you find this valuable?    
Wildridge
Wildridge
15. RE: Pea Gravel
May 11 2009, 7:56 PM EDT | Post edited: May 11 2009, 7:56 PM EDT
Great idea to start a pea gravel picture/comment page SpottedTApps. It would show different ways people have incorporated pea gravel into their PPs & brief comments like cost/tons, wether something was placed underneath (geo-textile fabric or cement wash out) & location (state/country) might really be a nice, quick reference. At some point, I'm hoping to add a peagravel area as well as a sand area. To have some pictures to look at would also be very motivating for me. Ann Do you find this valuable?    
tangledmanes
tangledmanes
16. RE: Pea Gravel
May 11 2009, 8:34 PM EDT | Post edited: May 11 2009, 8:34 PM EDT
Okay, post your gravel pics on the new pea gravel page in the Paddock Paradise section. :-) I found a new template for the page & decided to try it out since it gives extra room for descriptions off to the side. If it doesn't work out for gravel, feel free to change it to suit and/or just add your pictures above or below. It might be a good idea to add a chart to the page, too--something like the hay net comparison chart...
~JoAnn
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SpottedTApps
SpottedTApps
17. RE: Pea Gravel
May 12 2009, 9:57 AM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 9:57 AM EDT
OK, I updated mine. I also added a link from the Florida track page to my pea gravel page. Thanks JoAnn. You know I'm fairly inept at this stuff. :) Do you find this valuable?    
tangledmanes
tangledmanes
18. RE: Pea Gravel
May 13 2009, 12:28 AM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2009, 12:29 AM EDT
Well, I'm drooling over all the new pea gravel at your place and at Wildridge, too. The picture of your Appy standing there looks like a day at the beach -- which is how I explained the comfort factor to my niece. She asked me who the horse in the picture is, and I directed her attention to the new gravel - ha ha - and she asked if it wasn't uncomfortable standing on rocks? So I told her that for the horses it's the same as us walking on beach sand. Her family has spent a few years in Hawaii, so that made perfect sense to her. >G<
http://paddockparadise.wetpaint.com/page/Pea+Gravel
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Wildridge
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19. RE: Pea Gravel
May 13 2009, 6:02 AM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2009, 6:02 AM EDT
Tangledmanes, just wanted you to know I love the way you set up the Pea Gravel page. Perhaps I should add a picture of the crusher run with info although the horses don't love to stand on it the way they apparently love the pea gravel. SpottedTApps picture is awsome...it looks comfortable to me & I bet the horses hooves really will get a polish! As my horses are going through a transition period with their hooves, they don't like to stand on the crusher run...too hard in their opion. However, it has aided in the rehabilitation of their hooves and has kept the mud down with all the rain we've had this Spring. I would recommend using the crusher run if that is what one's budget can handle. Ann Do you find this valuable?    
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